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From kee--(at)--ustin.ibm.com Sat Aug 13 16:19:44 CDT 1994
Article: 22238 of alt.guitar
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kee--(at)--ustin.ibm.com (RG Keen)
Subject: Re: Tube question (confusion)
Originator: kee--(at)--een.austin.ibm.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:27:31 GMT
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In article , Ken Harris writes:
> I'm getting confused on tubes. Would it be possible
> for someone to list the different types of tubes,
> both preamp and power amp tubes? (OR are there
> too many?)
>
> Creating this confustion, I took my
> old preamps tubes in, they were 12AX7As, and
> they guy gave my 12AX7s, saying there was no
> difference. The power tubes I think were 6L6s
> or something, and he gave me ones with a four
> digit code. They worked fine, but left me
> confused.
>
> Any help in this would be appreciated. Is there
> a FAQ covering this kind of stuff?


Tubes were made in a bewildering array of types, just as transistors were
in the golden age of transistors. And since many of these differed only
trivially, they could be substituted for one another in many cases. As
manufacturers noticed this, they began manufacturing fewer types which
were labeled with different numbers, but which could work at least passably
as the different types. (gosh, how's that for a fast, broad brush?)


Today, there are very few tube lines in operation, and even before the
US and Euro lines shut down, the number of different tubes contracted
drastically, until today, any difference between say a 12AX7 and a 7025
is academic or accidental. They may well have come from the same tube
line, and just be labelled differently. This is one reason people search
out new-old-stock (NOS) tubes, to actually get a quieter 7025.


The following is a run down of audio tube types. I'll probably miss a few
and make a mistake or two, but it should give the flavor.


Class - twin triodes


Primary member - 12AX7 and substitutes/equivalents
12AX7 - original high gain twin triode, amp factor 100
12AX7A- "improved" 12AX7, better specs on some things
ECC83 - Euro designation for a 12AX7 compatible twin triode
7025 - originally an industrial number for a lower noise/hum 12AX7
5751 - originally a military special type that is slightly lower gain,
but sturdier, less microphonic


Other members
12AT7, 12AU7, 12AY7, ECC82, many others; lower gain, higher current
twin triodes with a type "9a" pinout. These are used where lower gain
or wider frequency response, or higher current is needed.
6EU7 and clones - high gain twin triode, functionally similar to 12AX7,
different pinout and some parameters.
6DJ8, 6922, and clones; high transconductance twin triode intended for
radio use but used in some hifi audio stuff


Class - power output tubes


6L6 and its other variants - the "standard" beam power tube for Fenders
and many others; a pair can put out 50 watts if they are pushed to the
edge; 6L6 is an old design, but became a standard
5881 - a "military" type like the 6L6, may be directly substituted
EL34/6CA7 - Euro/US versions of a true power pentode roughly similar to
the 6L6 in power output, but not directly pin or circuit compatible
without modifications
6550 - an industrial power pentode, higher voltage and power output than
6L6 types; used in the SVT
7027/7027A - yet another power tube slightly higher ratings than 6L6, not
directly plug or circuit compatible; used in old Ampeg amps.
8417 - late design (60's) power tube with high transconductance, low Rp,
suitable for high power, easier design of output transformers. never
produced in high quantity because transistors came along.
6V6 - Smaller output tube than 6L6, produces 15-20 watts when pushed. 6L6
can be sub'ed into a 6V6 socket, but needs rebiased to work right.
6V6 into a 6L6 socket kills the 6V6.
6AQ5 - mini-envelope version of 6V6, same characteristics but lower power
and voltage ratings. Used only in old, obscure guitar amps, but sounds
good.
EL84/6BQ5/7189 - mini-envelope pentode, produces 20-30 watts when pushed;
famous for use in quads in the Vox AC-30


Class - miscellneous tubes
7199 - combined pentode/triode in one envelope. Used as an amplifier/phase
splitter in many hifi amps, lots of old Ampeg, Gibson, other guitar amps
6AN8 - different pinout, same discription
6U8 - ditto
6AU6 - high gain pentode used as an audio amp in some older gear


Can anyone help me with making this more accurate and inclusive? I'll
include it in the tube amp mini-faq.


R.G.





 

Index:

12AX7 Comparisons
12AX7 gain test
12AX7 vs 12AT7
12AX7 vs 5751
12AX7 vs 7025
5881 in Deluxe
5881=6L6GB
5AR4 data
5AR4 Typing
5V4 for 5AR4
62 Twin Speakers
6550s in Twin
6EY6 Characteristics
6EY6 close to 6V6
6EY6 rating vs 6V6
6EY6
6L6 GC meaning
6L6 Taste Tests
6L6 Types
6L6GC ID
6L6WGB vs 7581
6MB8 tube specs
6V6 6L6 swaps
6V6 duty cycle
6V6 NOS vs Sovtek
6V6 Ratings
6V6 Russian RCA Copies
6V6 to EL84 Cathode Resistor
6V6 Types
6V6=7408
6V6EH Taste Test
6V6EH vs RCA Blackplates
6V6GT Types
6V6GT vs GTA
6V6s in 6L6 amps
7408 info
7581A tubes
7868 equivalents
Amperex history
Best 6V6
Blue Glow Sylvania
Breaking in Tubes
Breathe on tubes
Brimar Special Quality
CEI 6V6GTs
Chinese 12AT7s
Chinese 6V6GTBC
Design Max Rating
EL34 coding explained
Euro Tube Code
Fingerprints
Fuzzy Cathodes
GE and Sylvania
Groove Tubes 6V6HD
Groove Tubes testing
Groove Tubes
GZ34 types
GZ34 Varieties
GZ37 vs 5U4
How Are Tubes Made
Hytron tubes
ID Tube Makers
Identify Tube Makers
Is Tube Matching Needed
LV Visseaux 6V6 Warning
M
Making Tubes
Mazda History
Metal 6V6s
micKtubes
More M
New US 6L6GCs
No More Chinese 12AX7s
Overvoltage Effects
Phillips 6L6GB JAN
Photon Noise
Real Mullard GZ34s
Relabeling
RTV Tube Damping
Ruby 6V6GTBC
Sovtek 12AT7EH 5751 Test
Sovtek 5881 Confusion
Sovtek 5881 data
Sovtek 5881 for 7027
Sovtek 5881 specs
Sovtek 5881
Sovtek 5881WXT
Sovtek 6CA7 problems
Sovtek 6L6WXT+
Sovtek Midget
Sovtek Online
Sovtek page
Sovtek Tube specs
SPICE tube models
Standby Switches
SV 6L6GC
Svetlana 6550s
Svetlana 6L6GC
Svetlana 7591A
Svetlana EL34 review
Telefunken placement
Telefunken Tubes
Tesla 12AX7
Tesla 6L6GC
Tomorrows tubes
Tube Amp Books
Tube Amp FAQ Feb 96
Tube Chickens
Tube Curve Tracers
Tube Data Page
Tube Data Web site
Tube Failures
Tube gas avalanche
Tube heating effects
Tube Manufacturers
Tube Mfgr Codes
Tube mismatch harmonics
Tube Naming Explained
Tube rejuvenation
Tube Relabeling
Tube Stability
Tube types
Tubes for sale
Tubes vs SS
Visseaux 6V6 Warning
Visseaux 6V6
Vudu Tube Replacement
What Does 6L6GC Mean
What is 5881
What is 7027
Which Rectifier
Why 5V rectifier vs 6
Why 6
Why Tubes Coated Inside
Worn Out GZ34s
YA tube page

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