Scooter Takes The Juice
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Scooter Takes The Juice
Scooter Takes The JuiceFrom detritu--(at)--x.netcom.com Fri Jul 14 14:09:04 CDT 2000 From: Lord Valve Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps Subject: SCOOTER TAKES THE JUICE! Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:12:41 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 13 Jul 2000 09:08:02 GMT Xref: geraldo.cc.utexas.edu alt.guitar.amps:263263 Lord Valve Speaketh: Ho HO, a *shocking* tale indeed... I decided to give my fearless assistant Scooter Barnes a short respite from the sandbox shit he usually has to mess with on his bench. After all, one's fingers do tend to get all cramped up from handling those itty- bitty three-legged fuses all day, and I figured he could benefit from stretching his hands a bit pulling genuine thermionic amplification devices from their sockets and whatnot. So...we had a Gibson GA-20 that a dude brought in; he musta got it at a garage sale or something, because it was beat to hell...no back, the handle was rotted off, and parts were hanging loose inside the chassis. We didn't have a schematic, but luckily a friend of mine who owns a shop on the other side of town had a print for this amp, and after Scooter talked to him on the phone for a few minutes, he was able to determine where everything went, and he soldered it all back together and fired it up. At first, no signal would come through, but it made nice crunching noises when any of the controls on the signal generator were operated. This was found to be due to the fact that the range selector switch on the sig generator was set to X100K (oops) and the old Jensen in the GA-20 just wasn't up to that kind of frequency response. That little problem dealt with, the amp was found to be operating normally, so Scooter hooked his git-fiddle up and proceeded to give the amp a workout. Mike Marchelya happened to be standing around (he comes in once a month to get slobbered on by my coonhound Blue, who, for some unfathomable reason, loves his ass with an unbridled passion) (hi Mike) and we both remarked that it sounded really good...funky and bluesy. (Scooter's playing didn't hurt it any, either... the boy can *pick* some gee-tah, I tell ya.) Scooter thought he was hearing some speaker-fuzz, and he reached into the back of the amp to push on the cone a bit to see if the VC was rubbing. He shot right back out of the amp, and proceeded to call upon the Name of one of the Three Most Famous Black People (Aunt Jemimah, Uncle Ben, and Mother Fucker, you guess which one... ;-) and it was obvious that he had tasted a little B+. Now, techs *do* get shocked from time to time, it's true, and it usually happens because we aren't paying attention to what we're doing; getting zapped isn't remarkable in that respect. In this case, however, the mechanism for Scooter's trip to Arcy-Sparky Land was something neither one of us had ever seen before. This is an old amp, with the output tranny mounted on the speaker frame. Somehow, the speaker frame was energized with the full B+, around 300 volts. Scooter was holding his guitar, with his hand on the strings when he reached in to push the cone, and that's how he got zapped. We suspected the old cloth-covered wires had rotted insulation, and that one of the OPT primary wires had rubbed through and touched the frame. Nope...they all checked fine. I had him pull the OPT, and I took it over to my bench where I could test it with my Fluke 8050A. It turns out that there was a high-resistance short from the primary to the laminations. Since this circuit floats the output (no ground reference for the speaker voice-coil) and since there's no frame-ground wire for the speaker, the B+ appeared on the frame (and on Scooter's arms, when he grabbed it) without blowing the fuse. My Fluke said there was ~800K between the primary and the laminations, but it was a jittery reading and I suspect that it may have been much lower when the windings were energized. Scooter, BTW, being a strapping young fellow, did *not* require a change of skivvies after the incident, although he was kinda nervous for around an hour afterwards. So now, whenever we get one of those old clunkers in with a speaker-mounted OPT, the *first* thing we're gonna do is check for juice on the speaker frame. Ya never can tell when a *surprise* is gonna show up... So Sayeth the Lord. Lord Valve VISIT MY WEBSITE: http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/lord-valve/ Good tube FAQ for newbies. 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