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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:37:14 EST
From: PL5~ol.com
Subject: Re: Who is correct? Bassman speakers

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In a message dated 1/12/03 5:09:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Lsboogie~ol.com writes:

> Bob,
> I'm not so sure this answers the question in my mind. If your real '59
> Bassman has Jensen P10R speakers and that is what the Victoria has and
> Fender puts the Celestion Vintage 30 in the custom shop '59 Bassman, why
is
> that people are saying the Jensen P10R reissues are some of the worst
> speakers on the market and why is it that Fender is putting the Celestion
> Vintage 30 in the custom '59? Again, the real question is not duplication
> of equipment, but tone. Who has the closest duplication of tone that you
> can get from a speaker: Fender or Victoria? Why didn't Fender go back to
> the original speaker (P10R) themselves? They kept to the other
> specifications of the amp.
> Best regards,
> Boogie
>

Why is it that people are saying that the Jensen P10R's are some of the
worst
speakers on the market? I believe its obvious- They sound like crap! The
reissue P10R's deliver none of the original feel or sound of the old
Alnicos,
they are simply much like the Reissue Bassman by Fender, a bad reissue of
good product. Fender has shown that they are able to reissue an amp properly
(the reissue Fender Deluxe Reverb), but unfortunately they have chosen not
to
with the Bassman.

I believe in the case of the Jensens (and the Bassman as well) that the
manufacturer is cutting cost and quality in order to make the speaker
cheaper. The ironic thing is that the Jensen C10Q is probably the best 10"
speaker on the market, and it comes at half the price as the Jensen alnico.

I believe the reason why Fender puts Celestions on the Custom shop Bassman
is
because that is what the customers have demanded, and at the cost that they
are producing the custom shop amps they can adjust accordingly as opposed to
their mass produced reissue lines.
Why didn't Fender go back to the original P10R's themselves? Well thats a
question you need to ask them.

Andrew

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In a message dated 1/12/03
5:09:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, Lsboogie~ol.com writes:





Bob,

I'm not so sure this answers the question in my mind.  If your real '59
Bassman has Jensen P10R speakers and that is what the Victoria has and
Fender puts the Celestion Vintage 30 in the custom shop '59 Bassman, why is
that people are saying the Jensen P10R reissues are some of the worst
speakers on the market and why is it that Fender is putting the Celestion
Vintage 30 in the custom '59?  Again, the real question is not
duplication of equipment, but tone.  Who has the closest duplication of
tone that you can get from a speaker: Fender or Victoria?  Why didn't
Fender go back to the original speaker (P10R) themselves?  They kept to
the other specifications of the amp.

Best regards,

Boogie





Why is it that people are saying that the Jensen P10R's are some of the
worst speakers on the market? I believe its obvious- They sound like crap!
The reissue P10R's deliver none of the original feel or sound of the old
Alnicos, they are simply much like the Reissue Bassman by Fender, a bad
reissue of good product. Fender has shown that they are able to reissue an
amp properly (the reissue Fender Deluxe Reverb), but unfortunately they have
chosen not to with the Bassman.



I believe in the case of the Jensens (and the Bassman as well) that the
manufacturer is cutting cost and quality in order to make the speaker
cheaper. The ironic thing is that the Jensen C10Q is probably the best 10"
speaker on the market, and it comes at half the price as the Jensen alnico.




I believe the reason why Fender puts Celestions on the Custom shop Bassman
is because that is what the customers have demanded, and at the cost that
they are producing the custom shop amps they can adjust accordingly as
opposed to their mass produced reissue lines.

Why didn't Fender go back to the original P10R's themselves? Well thats a
question you need to ask them.



Andrew

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