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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 00:24:45 +1300
From: "G maj"
Subject: Re: Franz and Ludwig

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Weiser
To:
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Franz and Ludwig

>
> > A few of the composer's biographies I have read (eg. Scherbert,
Beethoven,
> > Mozart) talk about how in their days when they have lost the ability to
play
> > or conduct, they while away their days reading written score because
they
> > enjoy the music so much. Beethoven requested Schubert's compositions
> > because he loved the music so much. Before Beethoven died, he finally
got to
> > tell Schubert that he thought his compositions were better than his own.
He
> > hadn't physically heard a note of it for Beethoven was well and truely
deaf
> > by then.
> >
>
> JR-
>
> What's you're source for that? Beethoven said Schubert had "the divine
spark," but did not, AFAIK, ever rank S. above himself.
>
> -Glenn Weiser

Wasn't JR - twas me...

You may very well be right.

My source:
"Unfinished Symphony, the story of Franz Schubert" by Madeleine Goss (NY,
(c) 1941)
Page 278

Beethoven looked over Schubert's manuscripts with evident appreciation. "
You will move the world with these songs," he said in a feeble voice. Then
he added with a sad smile: "Perhaps more than my own music will ... !"


Unfortunately the biography I have of Beethoven only offers a paragraph to
the event instead of a couple of pages found in the above book ... so I have
no backing to that book and it may have been with some creative license, and
I don't really care enough to find out whether this is true or not just at
this moment.

If you have other sources I would appreciate them.

The point of bringing this up was not whether or not Beethoven said such a
thing it was that he heard the music as he read sheet music... he was deaf
from around 1820 and yet could compose music to paper because he could hear
it in his head. This was a point I was making about possible of purely
aural records of music to come....

G maj