>>Oh yeah, DT - You mentioned an odd pucker - who might that be?
Sorry, I should have made it more obvious, ..it was you.
Hope this clears up any missedconceptions.
TB, pucker, lip blocking, nostril pinching, mud wrestling, As long as you get the sound you want it doesn't matter. Also, someone else trying to copy your sound may get it by a different technique. I did a very passable Larry Adler impression before I found out that he made those noises in an entirely different way. (I laid off because I didn't want to overshadow him) (I'm 6'4" and he's 4' 15") In the front of my books (don't shout too loudly this time Jon G!) I have a forward by Larry Adler, people ask me to sign on the back of that page... I refrain... shouldn't sign on Adler's backside)